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NHTSA ID Number: 10187375
Manufacturer Communication Number: 17NA166
Summary
This technical bulletin provides a procedure to measure vibration and install engine mounts to correct a Rough Idle in Drive concern.
Condition
Rough idle and/or vibration at idle in Drive.
This condition may be most noticeable following extended driving, after hard acceleration, while idling at a stop in Drive.
May feel like a lopey or lumpy idle, or may be described as a low idle.
This condition will not be present in Park or Neutral. (There have been a few cases for rough idle in Reverse.)
Note: There will not be any DTCs with this concern.
66 Affected Products
Vehicles
MAKE | MODEL | YEAR |
CADILLAC![]() | ESCALADE | 2014-2021 |
CADILLAC![]() | ESCALADE ESV | 2014-2021 |
CHEVROLET | SILVERADO 1500 | 2014, 2017-2018, 2020-2021 |
CHEVROLET | SILVERADO 2500 | 2014-2018 |
CHEVROLET | SUBURBAN | 2014-2021 |
CHEVROLET | TAHOE | 2014-2021 |
GMC | SIERRA 1500 | 2014, 2020-2021 |
GMC | SIERRA 2500 | 2014-2018 |
GMC | SIERRA DENALI | 2015-2018 |
GMC | YUKON | 2014-2017, 2020-2021 |
GMC | YUKON XL | 2014-2017, 2020-2021 |
1 Associated Document
Manufacturer Communications
Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166
Date: December, 2020
MC-10187375-9999.pdf 473.208KB
NHTSA ID Number: 10178253
Manufacturer Communication Number: 17NA166
Summary
This technical bulletin provides a procedure to measure vibration and install engine mounts to correct a Rough Idle in Drive concern.
1 Associated Document
Manufacturer Communications
Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166
Date: June, 2020
MC-10178253-9999.pdf 388.003KB
NHTSA ID Number: 10119065
Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5211F
Summary
This Preliminary Information communication provides information to the technician the steps needed to diagnose and repair vehicles with a rough idle and/or vibration at idle in Drive. This condition will not be present in Park, or Neutral. This concern may be caused by ground out within the one or both engine mounts. Technician will use CH-51450-A (Pico Oscilloscope) to measure the vibration disturbance. If the vibration concern is E1.5 in the horizontal / lateral direction with Pico sensor mounted in seat track as indicated ? continue with steps to reduce the amplitude of the vibration by adding spacers in key locations to reduce ground out within the engine mounts. The 6.2L engine has a characteristic E1 which can be felt, and may be described as a lopey idle. Do not confuse 6.2L E1 characteristic (not caused by mount ground-out), with E1.5 normal idle characteristics being transmitted into the truck via ground-out thru the engine mounts. If measuring high at the seat track 12 mg or greater; replacement of the engine mounts should help reduce the amplitude of the vibration. If the disturbance measures at the seat track as E1.5 lateral in the range of approximately 2.5 – 8 mg using a tri-axis sensor. Then place tri-axis Pico sensor on the inboard seat track forward-most location to record measurement of the rough idle vibration concern. With the Heater-Vent-Air Conditioning on perform several short heavy launch events from stop to stop to bring the temperatures back up while attempting to re-create the rough idle vibration in Drive with Pico sensor placed on inboard seat track; while the vibration is active ? Record Pico reading. This method seems to provide better results than extended test drives. If the Pico reading for E1.5, with vibration active, at specified seat track location measures close to 2mg or less use Service Information to diagnose rough idle / vibration. If the Pico reading for E1.5, with vibration active, at the inboard forward seat track l
1 Associated Document
Manufacturer Communications
Bulletin No.: PIP5211F
Date: Oct-2016
MC-10119065-9999.pdf 897.805KB
NHTSA ID Number: 10099468
Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5211F
Summary
THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION COMMUNICATION PROVIDES INFORMATION TO THE TECHNICIAN THE STEPS NEEDED TO DIAGNOSE AND REPAIR VEHICLES WITH A ROUGH IDLE AND/OR VIBRATION AT IDLE IN DRIVE. THIS CONDITION WILL NOT BE PRESENT IN PARK, OR NEUTRAL. THIS CONCERN MAY BE CAUSED BY GROUND OUT WITHIN THE ONE OR BOTH ENGINE MOUNTS. TECHNICIAN WILL USE CH-51450-A (PICO OSCILLOSCOPE) TO MEASURE THE VIBRATION DISTURBANCE. IF THE VIBRATION CONCERN IS E1.5 IN THE HORIZONTAL / LATERAL DIRECTION WITH PICO SENSOR MOUNTED IN SEAT TRACK AS INDICATED CONTINUE WITH STEPS TO REDUCE THE AMPLITUDE OF THE VIBRATION BY ADDING SPACERS IN KEY LOCATIONS TO REDUCE GROUND OUT WITHIN THE ENGINE MOUNTS. THE 6.2L ENGINE HAS A CHARACTERISTIC E1 WHICH CAN BE FELT, AND MAY BE DESCRIBED AS A LOPEY IDLE. DO NOT CONFUSE 6.2L E1 CHARACTERISTIC (NOT CAUSED BY MOUNT GROUND-OUT), WITH E1.5 NORMAL IDLE CHARACTERISTICS BEING TRANSMITTED INTO THE TRUCK VIA GROUND-OUT THRU THE ENGINE MOUNTS.
1 Associated Document
Manufacturer Communications
Bulletin No.: PIP5211F
Date: Sep-2016
MC-10099468-2280.pdf 898.029KB
NHTSA ID Number: 10080684
Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5211E
Summary
THIS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION COMMUNICATION PROVIDES INFORMATION TO THE TECHNICIAN THE STEPS NEEDED TO DIAGNOSE AND REPAIR VEHICLES WITH A ROUGH IDLE AND/OR VIBRATION AT IDLE IN DRIVE. THIS CONDITION WILL NOT BE PRESENT IN PARK, OR NEUTRAL. THIS CONCERN MAY BE CAUSED BY GROUND OUT WITHIN THE ONE OR BOTH ENGINE MOUNTS. TECHNICIAN WILL USE CH-51450-A (PICO OSCILLOSCOPE) TO MEASURE THE VIBRATION DISTURBANCE. IF THE VIBRATION CONCERN IS E1.5 IN THE HORIZONTAL / LATERAL DIRECTION WITH PICO SENSOR MOUNTED IN SEAT TRACK AS INDICATED CONTINUE WITH STEPS TO REDUCE THE AMPLITUDE OF THE VIBRATION BY ADDING SPACERS IN KEY LOCATIONS TO REDUCE GROUND OUT WITHIN THE ENGINE MOUNTS. THE 6.2L ENGINE HAS A CHARACTERISTIC E1 WHICH CAN BE FELT, AND MAY BE DESCRIBED AS A LOPEY IDLE. DO NOT CONFUSE 6.2L E1 CHARACTERISTIC (NOT CAUSED BY MOUNT GROUND-OUT), WITH E1.5 NORMAL IDLE CHARACTERISTICS BEING TRANSMITTED INTO THE TRUCK VIA GROUND-OUT THRU THE ENGINE MOUNTS. IF MEASURING HIGH AT THE SEAT TRACK 12 MG OR GREATER; REPLACEMENT OF THE ENGINE MOUNTS SHOULD HELP REDUCE THE AMPLITUDE OF THE VIBRATION. IF THE DISTURBANCE MEASURES AT THE SEAT TRACK AS E1.5 LATERAL IN THE RANGE OF APPROXIMATELY 2.5 – 8 MG USING A TRI-AXIS SENSOR. THEN PLACE TRI-AXIS PICO SENSOR ON THE INBOARD SEAT TRACK FORWARD-MOST LOCATION TO RECORD MEASUREMENT OF THE ROUGH IDLE VIBRATION CONCERN. WITH THE HEATER-VENT-AIR CONDITIONING ON PERFORM SEVERAL SHORT HEAVY LAUNCH EVENTS FROM STOP TO STOP TO BRING THE TEMPERATURES BACK UP WHILE ATTEMPTING TO RE-CREATE THE ROUGH IDLE VIBRATION IN DRIVE WITH PICO SENSOR PLACED ON INBOARD SEAT TRACK; WHILE THE VIBRATION IS ACTIVE RECORD PICO READING. THIS METHOD SEEMS TO PROVIDE BETTER RESULTS THAN EXTENDED TEST DRIVES. IF THE PICO READING FOR E1.5, WITH VIBRATION ACTIVE, AT SPECIFIED SEAT TRACK LOCATION MEASURES CLOSE TO 2MG OR LESS USE SERVICE INFORMATION TO DIAGNOSE ROUGH IDLE / VIBRATION.
1 Associated Document
Service Bulletin Document
Bulletin No.: PIP5211 E
Date: Jun-2016
SB-10080684-2280.pdf 1118.027KB
NHTSA ID Number: 10075739
Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5211D
Summary
Some customers may comment about a rough idle and/or vibration at idle in Drive.
This condition may be most noticeable following extended driving, while idling at a stop in Drive.
May feel like a lopey or lumpy idle, or may be described as a low idle.
This condition will not be present in Park, Reverse, or Neutral.
There will not be any DTCs with this concern.
When measuring using the vibration analyzer, CH-51450-A (Pico Oscilloscope), With the pico accelerometer positioned on forward end of the seat track; the concern will show in the lateral / cross-car direction as E1.5 (1.5 engine order), in the range of 2-7 mg.
1 Associated Document
Service Bulletin Document
Bulletin No.: PIP5211D
Date: 20-Jan-2016
SB-10075739-2280.pdf 252.928KB
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Service Bulletin Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 Date: December, 2020 TECHNICAL Subject: Rough Idle in Drive This Bulletin replaces PIP5211F. Please discard PIP5211F. Brand: Model: Model Year: VIN: Engine: Transmission: from to from to Cadillac Escalade Models 2015 2021 L83, L84, L86, L87, LV1, LV3 (4.3L, 5.3L, 6.2L) Chevrolet Silverado 2014 2018 Silverado 1500 (New Model) 2019 2021 Silverado LD 2019 2019 Suburban 2015 2021 Tahoe GMC Sierra 2014 2018 Sierra 1500 (New Model) 2019 2021 Sierra Limited 2019 2019 GMC Yukon Models 2015 2021 Involved Region or Country North America, Europe, Middle East, Israel, Argentina (Mercosur), Brazil (Mercosur), Chile (West), Ecuador (West), Peru (West), Japan, Cadillac
Korea (South Korea), GM Korea Company, China – SGM, Phiippines Condition Some customers may comment about a rough idle and/or vibration at idle in Drive. This condition may be most noticeable following extended driving, after hard acceleration, while idling at a stop in Drive. May feel like a lopey or lumpy idle, or may be described as a low idle. This condition will not be present in Park or Neutral. (There have been a few cases for rough idle in Reverse.) Note: There will not be any DTCs with this concern. Page 2 December, 2020 Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 Cause 4787059 This concern may be caused by ground out (1) within one or both engine mounts. Correction Important: Familiarize yourself with this entire bulletin before proceeding to ensure you are diagnosing and focusing on the correct issue by frequency measured with Pico scope. Perform PICO analysis, refer to the Service Procedure section below. ⇒ If the rough idle / vibration concern frequency is E1.5 in the horizontal / lateral direction with Pico sensor mounted in seat track as indicated below – continue with steps to install updated design engine mounts and settle both engine and trans mounts to reduce amplitude (mg) / eliminate ground out within the engine mounts for vehicles built prior to engine mount breakpoint. For vehicles built after breakpoint, follow Shimming Procedure for Engine Mount Vibration/Grounding after Mount Replacement. Important: The updated engine mounts are designed to reduce internal ground out, primarily E1.5. These mounts along with engine and trans mount settling will typically reduce amplitude at the seat track to 2 mg or less. Note: The 6.2L engine has a characteristic E1 which can be felt and may be described as a lopey idle. V-8 engine firing frequency produces E4 which will typically be very low frequency at the seat track. Do not confuse 6.2L E1 characteristic (not caused by mount ground-out), with E1.5 normal idle characteristics being transmitted into the truck via ground-out through the engine mounts. Service Procedure Initial Setup / Duplication / Evaluation: Measure the vibration disturbance using the vibration analyzer, CH-51450-A (Pico Oscilloscope), to qualify whether the issue frequency is E1.5 as opposed to E1 or E4. Note: If using a single-axis pico sensor, mount and test both vertically and horizontally – E1.5 rough idle vibration will usually be horizontal / lateral at the seat track. 4532459 Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 December, 2020 Page 3 4532456 (TA183 single axis pico sensor shown / TA143 is tri-axis sensor) Add E1.5 to the displayed data and turn Off T and P related data (under Add Vibration in Pico) since issue occurs with vehicle stationary. 4534309 Note: Amplitude (mg) readings from a single-axis pico sensor will be approximately 10% lower than with a tri-axis sensor. For example, a reading of 4 mg using a tri-axis sensor, would likely measure as about 3.6 mg on a single-axis sensor. If the disturbance frequency measures at the seat track as E1.5 with amplitude of approximately 2 mg or higher using a tri-axis sensor, continue with steps in this bulletin to reduce the amplitude (mg) of the disturbance, then exercise the vehicle and re-measure using Pico to determine level of improvement. If the E1.5 disturbance measures approximately 2 mg or lower using the Pico tri-axis sensor as indicated – the vehicle is considered acceptable. 1. Place tri-axis pico sensor on the inboard seat track forward-most location to record measurement of the rough idle vibration concern. Note: Most rough idle in Drive concerns are temperature dependent and can be difficult to re-create at times. 2. With A/C On, perform several short heavy launch events from stop to stop to bring the temperatures back up while attempting to re-create the rough idle vibration in Drive with Pico sensor placed on inboard seat track; while the vibration is active – Record Pico reading. This method seems to provide better results than extended test drives. 3. If the Pico reading for E1.5, with vibration active, at the inboard forward seat track location measures approximately 2 mg or higher – continue following steps in this bulletin to install updated engine mounts and perform the engine/trans mount settling process. 4. If the Pico reading for E1.5, with vibration active, at specified seat track location measures close to 2 mg or less – investigate other sources of the rough idle / vibration concern using SI diagnostics. Install Updated Engine Mounts and Engine/ Trans Mount Settling Process For Vehicles Built Prior to: SUV – February 2, 2017 V-6 PU – March 15, 2017 V-8 PU – March 22, 2017 Important: For any engine mount to frame bolts removed during this process. Replace the engine mount to frame bolts with NEW bolts. Important: Do Not use Impact wrenches when tightening the engine mount to frame bolts, or damage to threads in the frame may result. Important: Both LH and RH engine mounts need to be seated to the vehicle frame At The Same Time to help ensure best alignment. Page 4 December, 2020 Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 5030893 Note: Initial removal of the engine mounts will require the removal of the exhaust manifolds. Summarized below are key notes for engine mount replacement for rough idle: 1. Replace both engine mounts (1). Refer to Engine Mount Replacement – Left and Right Engine Mount Replacement in SI. 2. Install but do NOT tighten the mount to frame bolts. 3. Settle all mounts as follows: 3.1. Ensure the engine mount to frame bolts on both LH and RH sides are loosened a couple turns. 3.2. Ensure, the transmission/transfer case mount to frame crossmember nuts are loosened a couple of turns. 3.3. Have assistant set park brake and apply base brake. 3.4. Have assistant turn Traction Control Off, and brake torque in Drive and Reverse with the engine at operating temperature, then place in Neutral and turn engine Off. Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 December, 2020 Page 5 5318277 3.5. In Neutral, with engine Off, using Only Hand Tools, torque all the new engine mount to frame bolts (1) in sequence shown; 3.5.1. 50 Nm (37 lb ft) 3.5.2. Final Pass 65 degrees 3.6. Torque the transmission/transfer case mount to crossmember nuts to 55 Nm (41 lb ft). 4. Re-evaluate the rough idle vibration – repeating steps 1-4 under Initial Set-up / Duplication / Evaluation. If the E1.5 idle vibration at inboard seat track forward location has been reduced to 2 mg or less – the vehicle is considered acceptable. If a different frequency other than E1.5 is now elevated, for example E4, then most likely one of the mounts is bound. Carefully repeat the mount settling process for the engine and trans mounts, then re-evaluate. Shimming Procedure for Engine Mount Vibration/Grounding after Mount Replacement For Vehicles Built After to: SUV – February 2, 2017 V-6 PU – March 15, 2017 V-8 PU – March 22, 2017 Important: For any engine mount to frame bolts removed during this process. Replace the engine mount to frame bolts with NEW bolts. Note: Idle vibration caused by ground-out within an engine mount may be able to be turned off/on with a single bolt location. Shimming that bolt location may greatly reduce the vibration. In some cases, a combination of bolt location shimming may be needed. 1. With the aid of an assistant, run vehicle in stall with the parking brake set and base brake applied, in Drive, monitoring E1.5 on Pico at inboard seat track, with idle vibration active, perform the following: Page 6 December, 2020 Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 5318277 Important: Do Not use Impact wrenches when tightening the engine mount to frame bolts, or damage to threads in the frame may result. 2. Beginning with RH side, loosen the engine mount to frame bolts one at a time a few turns to release clamp load beginning with rear bolt at position 6, front bolt at position 5 and the middle bolt at position 4. ⇒ Verify if idle vibration was significantly reduced or eliminated when the bolts were loosened. 3. Torque bolts to specifications in order and validate if the vibration returns. 4. Repeat the process on the LH mount starting at the rear bolt at position 3, front bolt at position 2 and the middle bolt at position 1. • If idle vibration Does Not return when the RH or LH engine mount bolts are re-torqued to specifications, remove the old bolts and discard. Replace the bolts with new ones. • If idle vibration Does return, proceed with procedure. Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 December, 2020 Page 7 5164611 Note: Pause after loosening any of the mount bolts during these steps to determine the effect of the idle vibration on the Pico, at the seat track while making note of effect from each bolt location. 5. Beginning with RH side, loosen the engine mount (1) to frame bolts one at a time a few turns to release clamp load. 6. Remove the position 5 and 6 bolts (2), 7. Utilizing a jack with a block of wood, carefully raise the engine. Note: For spacer washers mild steel is recommended, no stainless; it may be necessary for some locations to use a small amount of adhesive such as ‘dum-dum’ to hold spacer in place. 8. If idle vibration was significantly reduced, add a spacer washer (3) approximately 2.5 mm thick between the engine mount and frame at position 5 and 6. 9. Install old engine mount to frame bolts. 10. Lower the engine. 11. Torque the bolts to specifications to validate if the vibration returns: • If idle vibration could be turned off with shimming one side, remove the old bolts and discard. Replace the bolts with new ones. • If idle vibration returns. Remove the shims and repeat the process for the LH mount. 12. Tighten the affected engine mount to frame bolts in sequence, to specification. Re-evaluate the rough idle vibration by repeating steps 6-9 under Initial Setup / Duplication / Evaluation. ⇒ If the E1.5 idle vibration at inboard seat track forward location has been reduced to less than 3 mg, determine with customer if condition is now acceptable. If there was not a single bolt location on the RH or LH mount which could turn the idle vibration off/on, shimming will be necessary for 2 or 3 bolt locations on one side. ⇒ Go back to the 2 bolts with greatest effect recorded on vibration reduction on one side and shim those bolts. Fine Tuning – Pico Sensor on Mounts (If Needed) Note: It is difficult to lower amplitude of E1.5 idle vibration at the seat track to about 2.5 mg or lower. Many customers are satisfied with approximately 3 mg or less. Some customers may not be satisfied until the idle vibration is brought below 3 mg, closer to 2.5 mg. 1. While the tri-axis sensor is mounted on the inboard seat track forward most location (Channels A-C), Add a second Pico sensor tri-axis or single plane using Channel D. 2. Place the added Pico sensor on the middle engine mount bolt head, beginning with RH side. Page 8 December, 2020 Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 3. For Pico readings from the mount, focus on Vertical E1.5. (suggest removing lateral and fore/ aft channels from display and removing E1 and E4 from display). 4. While the idle vibration is active, record the E1.5 amplitude (mg). 5. Repeat steps 1-4 for LH side while the idle vibration is active and compare readings. 6. Focusing on the side with highest E1.5 amplitude (mg), perform the following: 6.1. Place the added Pico sensor on the engine mount rear bolt head. 6.2. While the idle vibration is active, record the E1.5 amplitude (mg). 6.3. Move sensor to middle bolt head and repeat. 6.4. Move sensor to front bolt head and repeat. ⇒ if a spacer washer is not already in position, add a spacer washer approximately 2.5 mm thick between the engine mount and frame attachment at the bolt location with the highest recorded E1.5 amplitude (mg). 7. Re-evaluate the rough idle vibration repeating steps 1-4 under Initial Setup / Duplication / Evaluation: • If the E1.5 idle vibration at inboard seat track forward location has been reduced below 3 mg, determine with customer if condition is now acceptable. • If the E1.5 idle vibration at inboard seat track forward location has not been reduced below 3 mg, if a spacer washer is not already in position, add a spacer washer, approximately 2.5 mm think between the engine mount and frame attachment at the bolt location with the second highest recorded E1.5 amplitude (mg). (Leave the spacer washer at the highest recorded bolt location.) 8. Re-evaluate the rough idle vibration by repeating steps 1-4 under Initial Setup / Duplication / Evaluation. Parts Information Causal Part Description Part Number Qty X Mount, Engine Refer to EPC 1 Set N/A BOLT, ENG MT FRM SI 3 N/A GASKET, EXH MANIF 1 per SIde N/A BOLT, EXH MANIF 5 per Side N/A SEAL, EXH SYS L 1 N/A SEAL, EXH SYS R 1 Warranty Information For vehicles repaired under the Powertrain coverage, use the following labor operation. Reference the Applicable Warranties section of Investigate Vehicle History (IVH) for coverage information. Labor Operation Description Labor Time 4081688* Perform Pico Scope Idle Vibration Measurement 0.4 hr 4086928* Engine Mount Shimming Procedure – One Side Note: Time Includes Engine and Trans Mount Settling. 1.5 hr Add Engine Mount Shimming Procedure – Both Sides 0.5 hr 4081348* Engine Mount Replacement – Both Sides 3.8 hr (SUV) 3.1 hr (PU V-6) 3.2 hr (PU V-8) *This is a unique Labor Operation for Bulletin use only. Bulletin No.: 17-NA-166 December, 2020 Page 9 Version 8 Modified Released May 12, 2017 Revised June 6, 2017 – Updated information, moved Parts Information and Warranty Information tables to bottom of bulletin and added Keywords. Revised September 05, 2018 – Updated labor time information Revised November 16, 2018 – Add Mount Shimming Procedure and Fine Tuning sections, Added 2018 Model Year and Removed Vin Break Point. Revised April 18, 2019 – Update Shimming Procedure section, Add build cutoff dates, Update Engine Mount procedure, Updated Parts Information section and update the labor time. Revised September 11, 2019 – Added to replace the engine mount bolts in both procedures. Revised June 25, 2020 – Added note to remove exhaust manifolds and updated parts section. Revised December 11, 2020 – Added Silverado and Sierra 1500 (New Model), 2020 and 2021 to Model Year. Additional Keywords: PIP5211, PIP5211D, PIP5211E, vibration
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My 2016 Tahoe LTZ has a rough, shaky idle while in park. The PIP5211E was performed at dealer about one month ago and condition persists. It is absolutely noticeable to all my passengers who sit in the vehicle while its idling in park! Please help or advise on how to correct this problem. This is NOT the way a brand new $74K vehicle should run.
You can file a complain with the NHTSA https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/