Avoiding Torque Converter Or Crankshaft Damage While Diagnosing Noise Concerns Do Not Separate The Torque Converter From the Flex Plate – GM Passenger Cars and Trucks

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NHTSA ID Number: 10220319

Manufacturer Communication Number: 22-NA-181

Summary

This diagnostic tip advises the tech not to separate the flexplate from the torque convertor or damage my occur if the engine is started while diagnosing for noise from the engine or transmission.

 


Condition

Some customers may comment on a noise coming from underneath the vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission.

 

Cause

Technicians may find that the noise is coming from the bell housing area.

 

Correction

Important: Do Not separate the torque converter from the flex plate.
The purpose of this information is to advise the dealer technician of the following:

It is not recommended to remove the flex plate to torque converter bolts, push the torque converter back towards the transmission and start the engine to determine if the noise is coming from the engine or the transmission.

Damage may occur to the pilot on the front of the torque converter or the pilot hole in the end of the crankshaft or both if the engine is running with the flex plate to torque converter bolts removed.

It is recommended to use chassis ears to isolate the component or assembly that is the loudest source of the noise.

 


2069 Affected Products

Vehicles

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BUICKeBayALLURE2006-2009
BUICKeBayCASCADA2016-2019
BUICKeBayCENTURY2000-2005
BUICKeBayENCLAVE2008-2023
BUICKeBayENCORE2013-2022
BUICKeBayENCORE GX2020-2022
BUICKeBayENVISION2016-2022
BUICKeBayLACROSSE2005-2020
BUICKeBayLESABRE2000-2006, 2013
BUICKeBayLUCERNE2006-2012
BUICKeBayPARK AVENUE2000-2005
BUICKeBayRAINIER2003-2007
BUICKeBayREGAL2000-2005, 2008-2020
BUICKeBayREGAL TOURX2018
BUICKeBayRENDEZVOUS2000-2007
BUICKeBayRIVIERA2000
BUICKeBaySKYLARK2000
BUICKeBayTERRAZA2005-2008
BUICKeBayVERANO2012-2017
CADILLACeBayATS2013-2019
CADILLACeBayATS-V2015-2018
CADILLACeBayCATERA2000-2003
CADILLACeBayCT42020-2022
CADILLACeBayCT52020-2022
CADILLACeBayCT62013-2021
CADILLACeBayCTS2003-2019
CADILLACeBayCTS-V2004-2007, 2010-2012, 2014-2016, 2018
CADILLACeBayDEVILLE2000-2005
CADILLACeBayDTS2004-2012
CADILLACeBayELDORADO2000-2002
CADILLACeBayELR2014-2017
CADILLACeBayESCALADE2000-2023
CADILLACeBayESCALADE ESV2003-2023
CADILLACeBayESCALADE EXT2007-2014
CADILLACeBayESCALADE EXT 15002002-2011
CADILLACeBayESCALADE HYBRID2008-2014
CADILLACeBayLYRIQ2023
CADILLACeBaySEVILLE2000-2004
CADILLACeBaySLS2000, 2002, 2004
CADILLACeBaySRX2004-2019
CADILLACeBaySTS2000-2012
CADILLACeBayXLR2003-2009
CADILLACeBayXT42019-2022
CADILLACeBayXT52013-2023
CADILLACeBayXT62020-2023
CADILLACeBayXTS2013-2020
CHEVROLET35002014-2022
CHEVROLET45002016-2020, 2022
CHEVROLET4500HD2017-2022
CHEVROLET4500XD2017-2022
CHEVROLET5500HD2017-2022
CHEVROLET5500XD2018-2022
CHEVROLET6500HD2022
CHEVROLET6H2000
CHEVROLET7H2000
CHEVROLETALERO EXPORT2000-2002
CHEVROLETASTRO2000-2005
CHEVROLETAVALANCHE2007-2014
CHEVROLETAVALANCHE 15002002-2013
CHEVROLETAVALANCHE 25002002-2007, 2013
CHEVROLETAVEO2004-2018
CHEVROLETB SERIES2000-2001
CHEVROLETB6 MEDIUM DUTY2000
CHEVROLETB72000-2002
CHEVROLETB7 MEDIUM DUTY2000
CHEVROLETBEAUVILLE2000
CHEVROLETBERETTA2002
CHEVROLETBLAZER2000-2009, 2019-2023
CHEVROLETBOLT EUV2022-2023
CHEVROLETBOLT EV2017-2023
CHEVROLETC SERIES2003-2009
CHEVROLETC102000-2001
CHEVROLETC35002018
CHEVROLETC45002003-2010
CHEVROLETC55002003-2008
CHEVROLETC65002000-2009
CHEVROLETC75002000-2009
CHEVROLETC85002003-2009
CHEVROLETCAMARO2000-2002, 2010-2023
CHEVROLETCAPRICE2003-2004, 2011-2018
CHEVROLETCAPRICE POLICE PURSUIT2012-2017
CHEVROLETCAPTIVA2008-2018
CHEVROLETCAPTIVA SPORT2009-2012
CHEVROLETCAVALIER2000-2005
CHEVROLETCHEVY VAN2000-2001, 2003
CHEVROLETCHEYENNE2017
CHEVROLETCITY EXPRESS2015-2018
CHEVROLETCLASSIC2004-2006
CHEVROLETCOBALT2000, 2002, 2005-2017
CHEVROLETCOBALT SS2008-2010
CHEVROLETCOLORADO2004-2022
CHEVROLETCONVENTIONAL2000-2001, 2003
CHEVROLETCORVETTE2000-2023
CHEVROLETCORVETTE Z062005-2008
CHEVROLETCORVETTE ZR12009
CHEVROLETCRUZE2010-2019
CHEVROLETDENALI2000-2006
CHEVROLETENVOY2000-2002
CHEVROLETEPICA2005
CHEVROLETEQUINOX2005-2022
CHEVROLETEXPLORER2000, 2002
CHEVROLETEXPRESS2000-2022
CHEVROLETEXPRESS 15002000-2012, 2014
CHEVROLETEXPRESS 25002000-2011, 2014
CHEVROLETEXPRESS 35002000-2010, 2012, 2014
CHEVROLETEXPRESS 45002009, 2012, 2014, 2016
CHEVROLETEXPRESS CUTAWAY2013
CHEVROLETEXPRESS CUTAWAY VAN2006-2008
CHEVROLETF SERIES2000-2001, 2004-2006
CHEVROLETF62000-2001
CHEVROLETF72000-2001
CHEVROLETG SERIES2000-2003
CHEVROLETG VAN2000-2002
CHEVROLETG VAN BUS2000-2011
CHEVROLETG15002003-2008
CHEVROLETG252000-2002
CHEVROLETG25002003-2005
CHEVROLETG302001-2002
CHEVROLETG352000-2002
CHEVROLETG35002003-2005, 2008
CHEVROLETG45002018
CHEVROLETH SERIES2001
CHEVROLETHHR2006-2011
CHEVROLETIMPALA2000-2020
CHEVROLETIMPALA (GMX 211)2006
CHEVROLETINCOMPLETE/CUTAWAY C32000-2005
CHEVROLETJIMMY2000-2002
CHEVROLETL SERIES2000-2002
CHEVROLETL VAN2000-2002
CHEVROLETLOW CAB 35002016-2019
CHEVROLETLOW CAB 45002016-2017
CHEVROLETLOW CAB 55002016-2017
CHEVROLETLOW CAB FORWARD 65002018
CHEVROLETLUMINA2000-2002, 2008, 2014
CHEVROLETLUMINA APV2000-2001
CHEVROLETM SERIES2000-2002
CHEVROLETM VAN2000-2002
CHEVROLETM/L2000-2002
CHEVROLETM/L VAN2000
CHEVROLETMALIBU2000-2022
CHEVROLETMALIBU CLASSIC2000-2005, 2007
CHEVROLETMALIBU ECO2013-2014
CHEVROLETMALIBU HYBRID2008-2010, 2016-2019
CHEVROLETMALIBU MAXX2004-2007
CHEVROLETMETRO2000-2001
CHEVROLETMONTE CARLO2000-2008, 2010
CHEVROLETMOTOR HOME2000, 2002
CHEVROLETN3002014-2016, 2018
CHEVROLETN300 MAX2017
CHEVROLETOPTRA2004-2007, 2016
CHEVROLETORLANDO2017
CHEVROLETP SERIES2000-2002
CHEVROLETPRIZM2000-2002
CHEVROLETR SERIES2000
CHEVROLETROADTREK2002
CHEVROLETS/T BLAZER2000-2005
CHEVROLETS102000-2007, 2016-2018
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 15002000-2023
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 1500 HD2001-2005
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 25002000-2023
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 2500 HD2000-2004
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 35002000-2023
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 3500 HD2000-2001
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 4500HD2019-2023
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 5500HD2019-2023
CHEVROLETSILVERADO 6500HD2019-2023
CHEVROLETSONIC2011-2020
CHEVROLETSONOMA2000-2003
CHEVROLETSPARK2013-2022
CHEVROLETSPARK EV2014-2017
CHEVROLETSS2014-2018
CHEVROLETSSR2003-2007
CHEVROLETSUBURBAN2000-2023
CHEVROLETSUBURBAN 15002000-2011, 2021-2022
CHEVROLETSUBURBAN 25002000-2006, 2008-2011
CHEVROLETT SERIES2003-2010
CHEVROLETT65002001-2002, 2004-2009
CHEVROLETT75002004-2009
CHEVROLETT85002004-2009
CHEVROLETTAHOE2000-2023
CHEVROLETTAHOE HYBRID2008-2013
CHEVROLETTAHOE POLICE PURSUIT2010-2016
CHEVROLETTOPKICK2002
CHEVROLETTRACKER2000-2004
CHEVROLETTRAILBLAZER2000-2009, 2013-2014, 2017-2022
CHEVROLETTRAILBLAZER 3602002-2009
CHEVROLETTRAILBLAZER EXT2002-2004, 2006
CHEVROLETTRAILBLAZER EXT 3702002-2006
CHEVROLETTRANS SPORT2000-2002, 2005
CHEVROLETTRAVERSE2008-2023
CHEVROLETTRAX2013-2022
CHEVROLETUPLANDER2005-2009
CHEVROLETV SERIES2000-2001
CHEVROLETVAN2000-2002
CHEVROLETVENTURE2000-2005
CHEVROLETVOLT2011-2019
CHEVROLETW SERIES2000
CHEVROLETW SERIES C3 35002006-2007
CHEVROLETW-SERIES2000-2011
CHEVROLETW35002000-2001, 2003-2010
CHEVROLETW42000
CHEVROLETW45002000-2001, 2003-2010
CHEVROLETW55002000-2002, 2004-2010
CHEVROLETYUKON2000-2003
CHEVROLETYUKON XL2000
GEOMETRO2000-2001
GEOPRIZM2000-2002
GEOTRACKER2000-2002
GMC6H2000
GMC7H2000
GMCACADIA2007-2023
GMCB SERIES2000-2001
GMCB6 MEDIUM DUTY2000
GMCB72000-2002
GMCB7 MEDIUM DUTY2000
GMCBLAZER2000-2002
GMCC SERIES2000-2009
GMCC45002003-2009
GMCC55002003-2009
GMCC65002000-2009
GMCC6H0422000
GMCC75002000-2009
GMCC85002003-2009
GMCCANYON2004-2013, 2015-2022
GMCCONVENTIONAL2000-2001, 2003
GMCDENALI2000-2003, 2007-2015
GMCDIAMOND EDITION2000-2001
GMCENVOY2000-2013
GMCENVOY 3602002-2009
GMCENVOY DENALI2006-2007
GMCENVOY DENALI XL2006
GMCENVOY XL2002-2004, 2006
GMCENVOY XL 3702002-2006
GMCENVOY XUV2003-2005
GMCEXPRESS2000-2002, 2009
GMCF SERIES2000-2001, 2004-2006
GMCF62000-2001
GMCF72000-2001
GMCG SERIES2000-2003
GMCG VAN2000-2002
GMCG VAN BUS2000-2011
GMCG15002003-2008
GMCG252000-2002
GMCG25002003-2005
GMCG352000-2002
GMCG35002003-2005, 2017-2018
GMCGM2001-2002
GMCINCOMPLETE/CUTAWAY C32000-2004
GMCJIMMY2000-2004
GMCJIMMY CLASSIC2005
GMCL SERIES2000-2003
GMCL VAN2000-2002
GMCM SERIES2000-2002
GMCM VAN2000-2002
GMCM/L SERIES2000-2002
GMCM/L VAN2000-2001
GMCP SERIES2000-2002
GMCS/T JIMMY2000-2001
GMCS152000-2002
GMCSAFARI2000-2005
GMCSAFARI (GMC)2000-2005
GMCSAVANA2000-2022
GMCSAVANA 15002000-2017
GMCSAVANA 25002000-2018
GMCSAVANA 35002000-2018
GMCSIERRA 15002000-2023
GMCSIERRA 1500 HD2001-2005
GMCSIERRA 25002000-2023
GMCSIERRA 2500 HD2001-2005
GMCSIERRA 35002000-2023
GMCSIERRA 3500 HD2000-2001
GMCSIERRA DENALI2002-2003, 2007-2020
GMCSONOMA2000-2006
GMCSONOMA CREW2001-2005
GMCSUBURBAN2000-2004
GMCT SERIES2007-2009
GMCT45002005
GMCT65002004-2009
GMCT75002004-2010
GMCT85002004-2009
GMCTAHOE2000-2003
GMCTERRAIN2009-2022
GMCTOPKICK2000-2010
GMCTOPKICK 65002006
GMCTOPKICK 85002006
GMCV SERIES2000
GMCVANDURA2000
GMCW SERIES2000
GMCW SERIES C3 35002006-2007
GMCW-SERIES2001-2011
GMCW35002000-2001, 2003-2010
GMCW42000
GMCW45002000-2001, 2003-2010
GMCW55002000-2010
GMCW5500HD2007
GMCYUKON2000-2023
GMCYUKON DENALI2000-2013, 2015-2019
GMCYUKON DENALI XL2003-2018
GMCYUKON HYBRID2008-2013
GMCYUKON XL2000-2022
GMCYUKON XL 15002000-2012
GMCYUKON XL 25002000-2013
GMCYUKON XL DENALI2001-2003

 


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Manufacturer Communications

Bulletin No.: 22-NA-181
Date: September, 2022

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NHTSA ID Number: 10224273

Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5640A

Summary

This Preliminary Information communication provides information to the technician to not remove the torque converter bolts and start the engine as this may cause damage to the torque converter of the crankshaft on vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission.

 

1 Associated Document

Manufacturer Communications

Bulletin No.: PIP5640A
Published date: 09/1/2022

MC-10224273-9999.pdf 95.53KB

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NHTSA ID Number: 10193450

Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5640A

Summary

This Preliminary Information communication provides information to the technician to not remove the torque converter bolts and start the engine as this may cause damage to the torque converter of the crankshaft on vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission.

 

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Manufacturer Communications

Bulletin No.: PIP5640A
Published date: 04/12/2021

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NHTSA ID Number: 10160987

Manufacturer Communication Number: PIP5640

Summary

This Preliminary Information communication provides information to the technician to not remove the torque converter bolts and start the engine as this may cause damage to the torque converter of the crankshaft on vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission.

 

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Manufacturer Communications

Bulletin No.: PIP5640
Published date: 05/7/2019

MC-10160987-9999.pdf 93.131KB

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